One thing that I’ve been surprised to encounter in some of the church circles that I’m in now is a real embarrassment to say that Christianity is true, and that if it’s true, it should impact the way we live, and that it should be something that we tell other people about. And it’s almost like: “This is my private religion and it’s fine for me and my church to decide to do this, but we shouldn’t act like that has any bearing on the world.” I think it’s the posture that God has intervened in our world through the person of Jesus Christ. And not only that, but Jesus calls us now, Jesus wants to invite us into union with him, and that this is true, and this is real, and this matters. I think if you have that posture, it does completely change the way that you think about something like church growth because if it’s true, then you want to invite other people into that.

Joy Clarkson talks to Benjamin and Sarah Crosby in the latest episode of Plough’s Another Life podcast.